CONVERSATION...

 

" You will come in due course to realize your true glory lies                                  where you cease to exist."

                                                                ...Ramana Maharshi

M -Does that statement mean when my body dies I will discover a possible heaven or nirvana or an afterlife better than this one or something like that...?

S -Your missing the mark

M -How so?

S -'where you cease to exist' is the end/death of seeing as a separate self...in other words the contracted energy of separation stops. Your life continues no longer as a separate me but as life itself. When separation ceases where you look from is full empty boundless no edges whole complete pure vibrant alive love. It is recognized with utter certainty that this has always been. What is can not be objectified. 

M -You make it sound beautiful...this is what I want, this is how I want to feel all the time...I'm really tired of being a me.

S -I can relate to the feeling of being a tired me. Yes the me wants this yet it also does not want to cease, to die, me wants a peaceful me...do you see this.What you are is not a feeling nor a sensation. Feelings, sensations and thoughts still arise but for no one.When the illusion/dream of being a separate me no longer exists it is seen it was just an illusion nothing more. The question is... Do you want to die, cease to exist?

M -Yes..I think so...Although I do not understand how it all works...like I don't quite get it but there is a strong urge in me to say yes I want to die...but I really don't want to die if you know what I mean.

S -Yes I know what you mean. The identity of a body as yourself often takes this message as fearful or ridiculous as separation sees a world beginning with birth ending with death and a life in between. Too die before you die is a conundrum to the separate self me. When separate self me ceases there can be a sense of unprecedented freedom.Me can not fathom a life without a me controlling the helm it wants both, me and freedom.

M- Hmmm If you say so...

S - Actually I'am not saying anything. Words happen this conversation is happening...for no one from no one. Die before you die, cease to exist before the death of a body is what is being pointed to. In other words there isn't a you and there is not a you that will know and there isn't a me inside this body saying these words. 

M - I think I hear what your saying but... thank you.. so anything I say are just words arising? I get this but the 'for no one' is really hard to grasp as I am sitting here and your sitting there...do you know what I mean 

S -You haven't heard what's being shared. For someone to be sitting here and another there would be two.You think there is a you a separate individual inside your body and a separate individual inside this body...that is dualism. There is no separation please do not try to 'get it' let the energy of what is just be. There is nothing to seek, find nor an experience that brings you to anything...this is it, this is it, this is it...simply this is it. 

M -Ok thank you.

S -Your welcome love.